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The podcast is a good piece of work. All the 4 episodes were presented with great clarity by the presenter, Shawn. Shawn's good voice has also drawn my interest to what he had to say from beginning to the end. The various sound effects make the podcast more interesting to listen to. Shawn has given a comprehensive commentary about coffee culture in Malaysia, in particular the emergence of kopitiams and cafes. He has also made a good comparison between them. The only thing is that Shawn has missed the point about kopitiams' food. In fact, kopitiams have a lot more to offer than what he and his tinder date thought. Entering a typical kopitiam, you will find a wide range of food such as pau, kuih, buns, cakes, all in their different varieties. Some kopitiam owners and food stall operators whom the owners rent their space to also serve cooked food for customers who wish to have some solid food. The wonderful thing is, all these food and drink are sold at affordable prices. Despite my disagreement over Shawn's comments about kopitiam food and his prediction about its demise, I somehow like what he said about the coexistence of kopitiams and cafes and how they can suit the expectations of different groups of people.